X | Interview | Exene Cervenka | Final Album, ‘Smoke & Fiction’
As X bids farewell to an illustrious nearly 50-year career, they do so with the release of their final album, ‘Smoke & Fiction.’
Celebrated for their raw energy and poetic lyricism, X has become one of America’s most influential rock bands, with music that continues to resonate across generations. Their early albums, including ‘Los Angeles,’ ‘Wild Gift,’ and ‘Under the Big Black Sun,’ captured the dark realities of love and life in Los Angeles, showcasing a lyrical depth that was both unique and innovative. As they reflect on their four-decade journey, the band’s members emphasize their determination to continue evolving musically while maintaining a strong connection with their passionate fanbase. Despite the challenges of the industry, they attribute their longevity to an unwavering love for their craft and the magic they create on stage together.
Produced by Rob Schnapf, known for his work with iconic artists like Beck and Foo Fighters, ‘Smoke & Fiction’ has garnered widespread acclaim, being hailed as one of the year’s best roots-rock albums. Critics have described it as a fitting conclusion to a storied career, showcasing the band’s ability to stay true to their punk roots while embracing new influences. The album’s title evokes a sense of mystery and nostalgia, reflecting the abstract themes woven throughout its tracks.
As they embark on their End is Near Tour, fans can catch the original lineup—Exene Cervenka, John Doe, Billy Zoom, and DJ Bonebrake—performing live across the U.S. This tour celebrates not only their music but also the emotional farewell of a band that has been active for so many years.
With ‘Smoke & Fiction,’ X leaves behind a remarkable legacy, having shaped the sound and attitude of punk rock for nearly half a century. In this interview, we sit down with Exene to discuss the album, the journey of X, and what lies ahead after this poignant farewell.
“I protect myself somewhat from letting other artists’ personal visions creep into mine”
X has been a cornerstone of punk rock for nearly five decades. As you approach the end of your storied career, how does it feel to release a final album like Smoke & Fiction? What emotions and reflections are accompanying this monumental farewell?
Exene Cervenka: We are playing shows through the end of 2024, and we also have some bigger shows planned for next year, like Little Steven’s Garage Rock Cruise, which will be incredible. There are some festivals and other surprises. You never know what will happen. So, I’m not emotional; I think I am just grateful we have stuck it out so long.
Your earlier albums like ‘Los Angeles’ and ‘Wild Gift’ are considered classics. How has your approach to songwriting and recording evolved over the years, and in what ways does ‘Smoke & Fiction’ reflect this evolution?
I don’t think it’s changed very much. I am a better writer now and most definitely a better editor. John Doe and I worked out the songs together. He may write the whole song—lyrics, melody, chords. When I hear it, I look for ways to make the song stronger. Sometimes it’s great just the way it is, but usually, there are parts that can be improved. Moving the chorus around, arrangement suggestions, a lyric here and there. Same with my lyrics; John bends them to fit the chord structure.
Rob Schnapf, known for his work with Beck and Foo Fighters, produced ‘Smoke & Fiction.’ What did he bring to the table that enhanced the final album?
Rob also produced our LP ‘Alphabetland,’ so we knew how it would go this time. He’s great—full of suggestions, ideas, and encouragement. That’s all you need in a producer. He doesn’t try to change who we are, and he is an X fan, so that helps!
In the context of ‘Smoke & Fiction,’ which tracks or moments on the album are especially significant to you?
I really love all the songs on this LP. I am happiest with my vocals on ‘The Way It Is.’ I came up with a kind of old girl group, spooky part that makes the song very haunting. That was a new thing for me. I try parts without feeling afraid of singing them wrong; sometimes you have to feel around for the part and can’t be afraid of trying things.
The concept of ending a career is often fraught with reflection. What has been the most challenging or rewarding aspect of creating this final album?
It’s a bit reflective, but not in a sad way. It’s not much different from any other project. There’s excitement at the concept, lots of hard work, more hard work, relief, and then satisfaction. It wasn’t challenging; it was a very fun project. Rob is a lot of fun in the studio.
X has always been known for its raw sound and artful lyrics. How do you balance staying true to your roots while also embracing new influences or ideas in your final record?
I don’t have to worry about that. I just do what I do, what I’ve always done, for better or worse. I don’t listen to a lot of new music. I protect myself somewhat from letting other artists’ personal visions creep into mine.
“I never sing a song the same way twice”
Your live performances have been a crucial part of X’s legacy. As you embark on the End is Near Tour, what are you most looking forward to?
I never sing a song the same way twice. I sing different harmonies, different phrasing. Mostly, it all works! That keeps me engaged and excited for the performances. I think that’s good for the X people; so many of our fans have seen us a lot, and I want them to share in that. Physically, the shows are demanding. Singing and dancing for an hour and a half after an already long day of traveling, suitcase lugging, packing, and unpacking, and maybe an average hotel or maybe anybody’s guess. So, when we do stop playing shows, I will not miss all that hard stuff. I’ll miss playing for sure.
The title ‘Smoke & Fiction’ evokes a sense of both mystery and reality. What inspired this title, and how does it relate to the overall themes and messages of the album?
It’s just a great title! It’s evocative of an old detective novel or movie title. I like that; it combines mystery and reality. Also, it feels surreal. The songs have an abstract feel to them, a lot of mystery. We like the listener to make their own story out of our songs that is personal to them. There isn’t really a message.
Can you share any memorable or poignant stories from the making of ‘Smoke & Fiction?’ Were there any unexpected moments or breakthroughs during the recording process?
I can’t think of any. The whole process is memorable and poignant, though, really. Like I said, it’s a lot of hard work—lots of rehearsing the songs over and over and over. We don’t spend a lot of time in the studio because it’s expensive. It’s always best to work the songs out before recording.
Klemen Breznikar
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